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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adrian &#124; Rubiqube</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-101</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian &#124; Rubiqube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog and very insightful article. I think pricing is a topic that designers shouldn't be afraid to talk about. It's good for business and it's especially good for client education.

Seraph is right: there are clients out there who expect a custom WP theme design done for &#60;$100. Some of them are just cheap. But there are some that just don't know what's involved. So it's best to educate them. My 2 cents! ;)

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog and very insightful article. I think pricing is a topic that designers shouldn&#8217;t be afraid to talk about. It&#8217;s good for business and it&#8217;s especially good for client education.</p>
<p>Seraph is right: there are clients out there who expect a custom WP theme design done for &lt;$100. Some of them are just cheap. But there are some that just don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s involved. So it&#8217;s best to educate them. My 2 cents! <img src='http://designerside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Seraph</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Seraph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 17:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Great article, but I have to admit I was shocked at how much you get. I know I'm not a spectacular designer...but I get so many people who pitch a royal FIT over my pricing for a PSD template...which is usually about a hundred bucks.

I actually had one guy a few weeks back who wanted a full website with flash headers, an admin backend, membership database, etc etc....and he wanted it for under $150. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great article, but I have to admit I was shocked at how much you get. I know I&#8217;m not a spectacular designer&#8230;but I get so many people who pitch a royal FIT over my pricing for a PSD template&#8230;which is usually about a hundred bucks.</p>
<p>I actually had one guy a few weeks back who wanted a full website with flash headers, an admin backend, membership database, etc etc&#8230;.and he wanted it for under $150. <img src='http://designerside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: WebGyver</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>WebGyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 18:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it! Not that I necessarily agree 100% with everything youve written about, but Im thrilled that youve opened up the discussion about pricing for creative work.

Up until now, I thought that I must be the only person (especially in my market which is in and around Salt Lake City) who does web site design &#038; development by hand to deliver a creative, hand-made one-off project.

The problem that I typically face is this: Although I am much, much more affordable than any of the local design agencies, most of the people who ask me for bids are expecting $10/hr rates AND somehow think that a logo should take one to two hours, they also believe that a web application GUI just kind of falls into place as you program along (oh, not more than a couple of hours per page, by the way, regardless of complexity) and so on.

Then comes the added headache of combining design with functionality (say, a shopping cart and a payment gateway integration) which poses interesting challenges to me.

At any rate, I appreciate your insights. Even though I will have to adjust my rates according to the market and the competition and what my clients ultimately can (and are willing to) pay, Im still glad to find out how you think about that, and how you come to your conclusions.

Thanks!

WebGyver</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it! Not that I necessarily agree 100% with everything youve written about, but Im thrilled that youve opened up the discussion about pricing for creative work.</p>
<p>Up until now, I thought that I must be the only person (especially in my market which is in and around Salt Lake City) who does web site design &#038; development by hand to deliver a creative, hand-made one-off project.</p>
<p>The problem that I typically face is this: Although I am much, much more affordable than any of the local design agencies, most of the people who ask me for bids are expecting $10/hr rates AND somehow think that a logo should take one to two hours, they also believe that a web application GUI just kind of falls into place as you program along (oh, not more than a couple of hours per page, by the way, regardless of complexity) and so on.</p>
<p>Then comes the added headache of combining design with functionality (say, a shopping cart and a payment gateway integration) which poses interesting challenges to me.</p>
<p>At any rate, I appreciate your insights. Even though I will have to adjust my rates according to the market and the competition and what my clients ultimately can (and are willing to) pay, Im still glad to find out how you think about that, and how you come to your conclusions.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>WebGyver</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 10:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one. Funny that the snarky posts about how they think the blog design is bad dont include their own sites URL. I get it, (Shoemakers childrenetc.)

Its great to read this sort of thing and see how other people cost out projects. Its almost like asking what brand of underwear someone wears if you ask them how they estimate or bill. :)  A strange taboo, but present nonetheless.

I tend to reward good clients in the end with a few conspicuous added value bitsessentially a bonus for *good behavior*. High-maintenance clients certainly arent penalized, but they get exactly what they pay for and pay for what they get. Otherwise, my methods are pretty on the mark with yours.

Thanks for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one. Funny that the snarky posts about how they think the blog design is bad dont include their own sites URL. I get it, (Shoemakers childrenetc.)</p>
<p>Its great to read this sort of thing and see how other people cost out projects. Its almost like asking what brand of underwear someone wears if you ask them how they estimate or bill. <img src='http://designerside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  A strange taboo, but present nonetheless.</p>
<p>I tend to reward good clients in the end with a few conspicuous added value bitsessentially a bonus for *good behavior*. High-maintenance clients certainly arent penalized, but they get exactly what they pay for and pay for what they get. Otherwise, my methods are pretty on the mark with yours.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 01:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful, thanks! Any thoughts on how this would translate to print projects? or something like a logo/branding campaign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful, thanks! Any thoughts on how this would translate to print projects? or something like a logo/branding campaign?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post. The statement The problem with charging only by the hour is that a designers work is worth more than the hour they spend working on it. cant be more true with the creative side of things.
The difficult part with that is if you yourself are paying your designers hourly. In some ways you have to have an estimate of time as youre paying hourly for that and thus in return youd have to recoup those monies.

The last paragraph is very true however, in that your pricing very much depends on your experiences and personal choice. But, for beginners in the industry looking for guidance on how to start charging for things before they have those past experiences - this is a great article to start from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. The statement The problem with charging only by the hour is that a designers work is worth more than the hour they spend working on it. cant be more true with the creative side of things.<br />
The difficult part with that is if you yourself are paying your designers hourly. In some ways you have to have an estimate of time as youre paying hourly for that and thus in return youd have to recoup those monies.</p>
<p>The last paragraph is very true however, in that your pricing very much depends on your experiences and personal choice. But, for beginners in the industry looking for guidance on how to start charging for things before they have those past experiences - this is a great article to start from.</p>
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		<title>By: DESIGN</title>
		<link>http://designerside.com/article/pricing-for-creative-projects#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>DESIGN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 18:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, and your prices are in the fair range. 3500 for a good design integrated into wordpress is a fair price.

Its in the price range that most people could afford if you split the payments into 2 or 4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and your prices are in the fair range. 3500 for a good design integrated into wordpress is a fair price.</p>
<p>Its in the price range that most people could afford if you split the payments into 2 or 4.</p>
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